Legislature(1995 - 1996)

02/20/1996 09:15 AM Senate FIN

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       SENATE BILL NO. 175                                                     
                                                                               
       "An Act relating to correctional institutions and their                 
       administration; providing the Department of Corrections                 
  with      the authority  to require prisoners  to assist  in                 
  paying for     medical treatment; relating to  the authority                 
  of a law  enforcement  agency  to  charge   a  prisoner  for                 
  medical costs for   a preexisting condition; and relating to                 
  service of criminal      sentences."                                         
                                                                               
  Senator Donley testified on  behalf of his bill.   This bill                 
  is modeled  after  the Federal  Act  named the  "no  frills"                 
  prison act.  Some of the changes  were made in order to save                 
  money particularly  for  those  prisoners  who  have  severe                 
  illnesses.   At  present we  pay for them.   He  referred to                 
  amendment #3 which  has a more focused  definition regarding                 
  this.  (He noted, at this  time, that he supported all three                 
  of the  amendments.)   Additionally some  limits are  placed                 
  parallel to the current Federal  limits in prisons regarding                 
  what prisoners  are allowed to  have in their  possession or                 
  cells and what kind  of facilities can be provided  to them.                 
  The most important are:  denial of access to  weight-lifting                 
  equipment;  prohibition  to  more  than  basic  cable  T.V.;                 
  prohibition to television in cells; prohibition of computers                 
  in cells; bans  on certain  types of movies  being in  their                 
  possession or being viewed.  These appear in section four of                 
  the  bill  and  are  parallel  to  the  Federal  Act.    The                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  Department  is  allowed  some   flexibility  to  engage   in                 
  vocational training.  This is a real important tool that can                 
  be used to help the prisoners be able to earn a  living when                 
  they  get  out.   At  the  request of  the  Department, some                 
  authority is  added in section  7 to authorize  prisoners to                 
  engage in vocational training.  There was further discussion                 
  on the three amendments:   #1, extension on  the prohibition                 
  on televisions to  include possession  of VCR's and  compact                 
  disc   players;  #2,  prohibition   on  smoking   except  in                 
  designated  areas;  #3,  fine  tunes  the  severely  medical                 
  disabled language.  Amendment #1 was MOVED by Senator Donley                 
  and without objection was ADOPTED.                                           
                                                                               
  Amendment  #2  was  MOVED by  Senator  Donley  and testimony                 
  regarding this  amendment was  given by  Mr. Jerry  Shriner,                 
  Special Assistant, Office of the Commissioner, Department of                 
  Corrections.   There are  some facilities  where smoking  is                 
  banned  altogether and  other  facilities where  smoking  is                 
  allowed  in designated areas only.   The decisions were made                 
  by the Superintendent.   Without objection Amendment  #2 was                 
  ADOPTED.                                                                     
                                                                               
  Senator  Donley  MOVED  amendment  #3.   Mr.  Jerry  Shriner                 
  further testified  regarding this amendment that  during the                 
  past  year  there  were several  inmates  that  were paroled                 
  needing  either placement  in  a nursing  home or  full time                 
  nursing care at home.   This care was covered by medicaid or                 
  medicare.   At present  anyone being  paroled under the  new                 
  language could  also be  paroled under  the old.   Community                 
  safety could be  secured without requiring the  parole board                 
  to adhere specifically  to the  "confined to bed"  standard.                 
  Some small groups of  individuals could be paroled and  save                 
  the  department  health  care   money.    Co-chairman  Frank                 
  inquired as to  why there  is no positive  fiscal note  from                 
  Corrections.   Mr. Shriner advised  that it  presently is  a                 
  speculative  situation as it just depends on the inmates and                 
  their medical  needs.   Without objection  Amendment #3  was                 
  ADOPTED.                                                                     
                                                                               
  Senator  Zharoff  and   Senator  Donley  discussed   briefly                 
  contract and municipal  jails.   Mr. Dean Guaneli  clarified                 
  the matter  by stating  that municipal  jails are  not under                 
  State statutes.  The definition  of correctional facility is                 
  something  that  is specifically  owned  or operated  by the                 
  Department of Corrections.   It is generally known  that the                 
  contract facilities do  not offer  better services than  the                 
  state jails.  Contract facilities only hold prisoners ten to                 
  fifteen  days;  others maybe  up to  thirty  days.   This is                 
  usually for pre-trial purposes.   There would be no conflict                 
  with what this bill seeks to address.                                        
                                                                               
  Senator Frank discussed quality and quantity  of food in the                 
  jail. Senator Donley  advised that  the original version  of                 
  the bill was the same language which appeared in the Federal                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  Act  which  states that  the  quality and  quantity  of food                 
  should  not  exceed what  is available  if  you were  in the                 
  military service of the United States.  Since the department                 
  could not  identify what  that standard  was they  requested                 
  the present standard.   There still are some problems.   Mr.                 
  Guaneli commented that a standard  based on the constitution                 
  has  some  uncertainty  as to  what  that  means.   What  is                 
  constitutional in one  prison may  not be constitutional  in                 
  another.  Judges  base their   decisions on the totality  of                 
  the circumstances.   Since our facilities are  generally new                 
  we could get  by with a lesser quality of food.  He referred                 
  to sections  1(a)  and (c)  and stated  that the  department                 
  would have to adopt a conservative approach.  Senator  Frank                 
  felt there should  be some review  of what is happening  and                 
  how the Department could change their  behaviour.   If there                 
  is going  to be  a reduction  of the  "frill" aspect in  the                 
  prisons regarding  food then  there should  be some  savings                 
  resulting  in  a  positive  fiscal  note.    Senator  Donley                 
  concurred  with  these  suggestions.    In setting  up  some                 
  standards the past abuses would  be prohibited.  Mr. Guaneli                 
  advised there are a number of constitutional provisions that                 
  could be  worked under  including  the standard  of what  is                 
  nutritious  and   what  will  maintain   health  adequately.                 
  Senator Frank stated that if we are going to pass a  bill we                 
  should  know what we are passing and maybe get some savings.                 
                                                                               
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  Senator  Donley  said a  specific  provision could  be added                 
  stating that the menu  shall include not more than  two meat                 
  servings a day.  Senator Frank would  like to see a  serious                 
  response from the Department  as to what this bill  means in                 
  their management and felt that the matter has not been taken                 
  seriously.  Senator Donley said that  they have been working                 
  with the Department for  the last eight months and  they are                 
  not really enthusiastic supporters.  Senator Frank felt that                 
  this was  probably due to the  fact that they  felt this was                 
  changing their  ability to manage.   Mr. Guaneli  noted that                 
  the  Department  will  have  to  take  certain  things  into                 
  consideration in adopting to  medically prescribed diets and                 
  religious diets.                                                             
                                                                               
  Senator Frank asked  that the  Department be  put on  notice                 
  that a  thorough understanding of  the overall  cost of  the                 
  food service and how it would be  impacted by this change in                 
  law  was needed.    He asked  further as  to what  state and                 
  Federal lawsuits have been used  to develope standards as to                 
  what is acceptable, constitutional and appropriate.  Senator                 
  Donley advised that  the Federal Act was  basically adjusted                 
  to  fit  the  specifics of  the  situation  here  in Alaska.                 
  Almost everything done in the  prisons today gets litigated.                 
  A balance must be  reached between an aggressive  policy and                 
  just letting the prisoners do what they want.                                
                                                                               
                                                                               
  Senator   Frank  asked   about  the   premium   channels  on                 
  television.    Senator  Donley  said  the judiciary  version                 
  allowed basic cable to  be paid for  by the prisoners.   Mr.                 
  Shriner advised  that some  prisoners have  jobs within  the                 
  prison and earn sixty to eighty  cents per hour, others have                 
  money brought in my relatives.   In Palmer, for example, the                 
  inmates paid for the installation of the cable television in                 
  the  day  room  including  the   service.    Senator  Donley                 
  explained that preventing  prisoners from having televisions                 
  in individual rooms  and no cable prohibits them from having                 
  premium cable channels.   The reason for  allowing the basic                 
  cable service is because the reception  in some of the areas                 
  does not work so an allowance was made to  allow basic cable                 
  as an alternative to an antenna.  The original bill placed a                 
  total ban  on cable  television but  the department  felt it                 
  appropriate to at  least allow basic  cable.  Senator  Frank                 
  asked about a  book list.   Senator Donley  advised that  it                 
  varies from institution  to institution  what books and  how                 
  many you can have.   Mr. Shriner advised that  libraries are                 
  available in most institutions.   There is a good  access to                 
  books and magazines.  The department has  a security problem                 
  with  too  many books  in  rooms because  contraband  can be                 
  hidden in them  and they are  difficult to search.   Senator                 
  Frank  also   inquired  about  housekeeping   privileges  in                 
  individual cells and  Mr. Shriner  advised that even  though                 
  there is  no current prohibition  from a statutory  point of                 
  view   on  the  matter   there  are  none   allowed  by  the                 
  superintendents.    No computers  are allowed  in individual                 
  cells.  Senator  Donley said that  computers raise a lot  of                 
  difficulties.   Allowing  state controlled  computers  in  a                 
  common area for educational purposes is good.  All  training                 
  can be done  in this common room  under the watchful  eye of                 
  the correctional officer.  A  computer in an individual cell                 
  will  cause  a constant  security problem.     This powerful                 
  entertainment  tool  is  not  appropriate  in  a  punishment                 
  situation.                                                                   
                                                                               
  Senator  Donley  MOVED  CSSS  SB  175(JUD)  with  individual                 
  recommendations and  without objection the  bill is REPORTED                 
  OUT  with  individual recommendations and zero  fiscal notes                 
  from  the  Department  of  Health  and Social  Services  and                 
  Department of Corrections.                                                   
                                                                               
  ADJOURNMENT                                                                  
                                                                               
  The meeting was adjourned at approximately 10:15 A.M.                        
                                                                               

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